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the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted hundreds of police officers against the armed and extremely dangerous tsarnaev brothers. joining me is watertown police chief. chief, thank you first of all for what you and your officers did in the last week because it really was heroic police work. i'm so glad for you that it ended finally with the capture of these two criminals. in terms of the way it went on for you as the week went on, were there moments when you felt we're not going to catch this guy? >> well, we were right at it right from the beginning with our officers there at 12:25 a.m. in the back street of watertown. we didn't have much to think
the rule of law requires limitations and torture is something that should never been exceeded. as you know, i have famously or infamously called for torture warrants because i believe that torture would occur in extreme ticking bomb cases and i want accountability and visibility, but i don't want torture. >> alan dershowitz, thank you very much indeed. >>> he's the top cop who oversaw the final moments of the week-long nightmare in and around boston. the manhunt that pitted...
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right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs to make sure they don't kill anyone. >> that's right. they want to make sure there are no other casualties in the horror that's gone on the past few days. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back with the live coverage of the breaking news manhunt here in boston. ♪ [ jen garner ] what skincare brand is so effective... so trusted... so clinically proven dermatologists recommend it twice as much as any other brand? neutrogena®. recommended by dermatologists 2 times more than any other brand. now that's beautiful. neutrogena®. ♪ neutrogena®. before i do any p
right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs...
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he was asked to leave because he was being disrespectful to other people working out at the gym and law enforcement took the surveillance equipment from this gym in part of their investigation. one fellow boxer told us tsarnaev struck a figure in the gym calling him a premiere athlete. trainer eddie bishop travelled with tsarnaev to a national competition. you said he was eccentric. >> he had cowboy boots on and leather pants and a special hat. >> bishop says tsarnaev was strong but not tenacious. >> he had a really big punch. he knocked a lot of people out but, you know, he lacked that fight. >> reporter: what do you mean? >> he couldn't get you out of there quick. >>> meanwhile, authorities in canada say they foiled a planned terror attack. on monday two men were arrested and charged with receiving reports from al qaeda networks to bomb a canadian railway line. the chairman of the counter terrorism and intelligence subcommittee says the train was bound from canada to the u.s. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. >> thank you. >> now, i can
he was asked to leave because he was being disrespectful to other people working out at the gym and law enforcement took the surveillance equipment from this gym in part of their investigation. one fellow boxer told us tsarnaev struck a figure in the gym calling him a premiere athlete. trainer eddie bishop travelled with tsarnaev to a national competition. you said he was eccentric. >> he had cowboy boots on and leather pants and a special hat. >> bishop says tsarnaev was strong but...
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law feer law enforcement to say, keep an eye on this person, we think he may be up to no good? does that happen a lot, or is it rare? >> i'm not in a position to say how many times any specific government has communicated to the united states government, but it's fair to say that w whenever we get such communications i think we want to take them very seriously. >> in 2011 the fbi was informed by the russian fsb, the successor organization to the kgb, that they were concerned about the older brother. the fbi says they looked into his communications, they interviewed him, they didn't find there to be anything that would pose a threat to public safety, and then the older brother went to russia, we presume, to chechnya, came back. should the fbi re-interviewed him after he came back? >> they took the matter seriously when it first came up, and obviously there was a very serious concern that we can see in retrospect. and i would be particularly concerned about someone who visited an area like chechnya, if that's in fact what happened, especially in the light of the fact that chechny
law feer law enforcement to say, keep an eye on this person, we think he may be up to no good? does that happen a lot, or is it rare? >> i'm not in a position to say how many times any specific government has communicated to the united states government, but it's fair to say that w whenever we get such communications i think we want to take them very seriously. >> in 2011 the fbi was informed by the russian fsb, the successor organization to the kgb, that they were concerned about...
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at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. >>> welcome back. we have a lot more coverage ahead for boston, but we do want to turn our attention to other stories. the federal aviation administration is furloughing a lot of employees. it means fewer take offs and landings. the travelers are definitely feeling the pain. she was on a flight sunday night from los angeles to la. forced federal controllers on duty. major flight delays. >> i was on 8:25 and when i rebooked our departure time was 1:45 a.m. a company airline employees told us it was due to fog and other said sequestration. >> reporter: it was both according to the union rep michael foote. the airport has four parallel runways that can operate simultaneously on clear days. >> when that weather comes in, though, we normally go to two-runway arrival rate. two run wares open, descending through the cloud but was less than a mile apart. side by side coming down. >> reporter: that requires one air traffic controller monitoring each arriving plane but the l.a.x. control tower and regional facil
at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. >>> welcome back. we have a lot more coverage ahead for boston, but we do want to turn our attention to other stories. the federal aviation administration is furloughing a lot of employees. it means fewer take offs and landings. the travelers are definitely feeling the pain. she was on a flight sunday night from los angeles to la. forced federal controllers on duty. major flight delays. >> i was on 8:25 and when i rebooked our...
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on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks. does that add up? and the destructive nature of the pressure cooker bomb and what can be done to stop them? we have a special investigation. omnipotent of opportunity. you know how to mix business... with business. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle. and go. you can even take a full-size or above. and still pay the mid-size price. i could get used to this. [ male announcer ] yes, you could business pro. yes, you could. go national. go like a pro. >>> if you are just joining us, i want to update you on the investigation in to the boston marathon bombings. dzhokh
on the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. there wasn't a case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for my senate colleagues to call for him to be treated that way. >> congressman, thank you very much. >>> up next the attorney for american wife of tamerlan tsarnaev said she had no knowledge of the attacks....
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law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted and there is a hearing set for may 30th at 10:00 a.m. that the judge mentioned in this hearing monday morning. >> before i let you go, erin what do we know about legal defense? did he have legal representation in that hospital room? >> reporter: i have the transcript of the court hearing here there is controversy on friday and over the weekend about him not being mirandized. they went through it twice today and offered the use of an attorney and the one word he spoke was no when asked if he could afford an attorney and he was presented with defense attorneys today. >>> we want to bring you a look at the case ag
law enforcement officer was, sean collier was killed on tuesday night and that murder has not been charged yet at all and we should see the state do more work on that front in the coming days and weeks, we expect. >> as you talk about going forward in all this what do we know of how the process progresses from here? there was that legal hearing on monday. what happens next? >> that was just the very beginning, a complaint was filed. he still will have to appear in court, be indicted...
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for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it but also because it sort of says to anyone who would harm us, you're just a criminal. >> there has also been a lot of successful prosecutions of terrorist suspects in criminal court. >> you can learn a lot of evidence from this. when i first got into this field it was right after the africa bombings, african embassy bombings in '98, and some of the testimony that came out of that really taught us a lot about bin laden, about his rise within islamic jihadism and you can learn a lot out of it. what we don't know is whether he has anything to teach us. that's the one
for one, the law doesn't even cover him because he's a u.s. citizen. but from a law enforcement national security perspective, what better way to minimize the impact of terrorists than to treat them like criminals. that's what they are. if you make them into sort of a bigger deal than he is or anyone is, it sort of gives them a relevance we actually don't want to. so a lot of people in national security and counterterrorism love this idea. not only because of the legal underpinnings behind it...
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call the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. but there just wasn't the case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for some of my senate colleagues to call for limb to be treated that way. >> interesting point. also interesting we need to really reconsider. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate your time. "outfront" next, authorities stop another terrorist attack. this one on a train between new york city and canada. we have a i love live update on and talk to a man who was there when police finally captured suspect number two on that boat in friday. how police talked him out of the boat. here's a word you should keep in mind. unbiased. some brokerage firms are. but way too many aren't. why? because selling their funds makes them more money. which makes you wonder -- isn't that a conflict? search "proprietary mutual funds." yikes! then go to e-trade. we've got over 8,000 mutual funds, and not one of them has o
call the administration to do is come forward with a new structure and to articulate how the rule of law will support protecting the country in this new threat environment. but there just wasn't the case for treating this brother as an enemy combatant and i think it was very premature for some of my senate colleagues to call for limb to be treated that way. >> interesting point. also interesting we need to really reconsider. thank you very much, congressman. we appreciate your time....
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if you do see it, immediately contact law enforcement. cnn's carol costello has been piecing together the timeline of all of this, because in all the rush to report the latest information, it is easy to lose sight of how we got here and the extraordinary developments that we have seen over the last 24 hours in this fast and moving manhunt. take a look. >> reporter: it started thursday night at 5:10 when the fbi held an extraordinary news conference. >> today we are listing the public's help to identify the two suspects. after a very detailed analysis of photo, video and other evidence, we are releasing photos of these two suspects. they are identified as suspect one, and suspect two. they appear to be associated. suspect one is wearing a dark hat. suspect two is wearing a white hat. suspect two sat down a backpack at the site of the second explosion, just in front of the forum restaurant. >> reporter: thousands of tips poured in, flash forward to 10:00 p.m. thursday. >> a robbery took place. >> reporter: one of them captured on a surveill
if you do see it, immediately contact law enforcement. cnn's carol costello has been piecing together the timeline of all of this, because in all the rush to report the latest information, it is easy to lose sight of how we got here and the extraordinary developments that we have seen over the last 24 hours in this fast and moving manhunt. take a look. >> reporter: it started thursday night at 5:10 when the fbi held an extraordinary news conference. >> today we are listing the...
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but law enforcement sources say they have a number of active leads. they've issued a be on the lookout bulletin for someone described as a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt. that person could be a foreign national with an accent. sources say he tried to gain access to a restricted area before the blast. police are also looking for a penske truck that tried to gain access to a restricted area. a federal law enforcement official told cnn that both bombs were small. and initial tests show no c-4 or other high-grade explosive material. suggesting the packages used in the attack were code devices. still >> there's a certain level of sophistication. having made these bombs before, it's not easy. you just can't get it on the internet, make two of these bombs go off fairly closely together. so somebody had some experience. somebody practiced. >> reporter: sourcesel cnn that one, possiy two, unexploded devices also were found. potential treasure troves of clues about who may have made the bombs. authorities still have no i
but law enforcement sources say they have a number of active leads. they've issued a be on the lookout bulletin for someone described as a darker skinned or black male with a black backpack and black sweatshirt. that person could be a foreign national with an accent. sources say he tried to gain access to a restricted area before the blast. police are also looking for a penske truck that tried to gain access to a restricted area. a federal law enforcement official told cnn that both bombs were...
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one law enforcement official pointed me towards a line that runs between new york city and toronto. it runs actually from buffalo, new york. i'm told that the plan was to detonate explosives in canada. and derail -- and derail the train. and my law enforcement source said there had been some reports that they wanted to wage a spectacular attack, blow up a bridge. he said no. he said what they were doing was to target the train on the tressels, and actually what they wanted to do was derail the train and cause maximum injury to the people on it. >> so two quick follow-ups with you, gloria. first, whether we look at u.s. response here of what happened in boston, canada, an example of it working well, right? coordinated investigation, caught the plot early, and they have been watching it for over a year, haddize izeyes on the si, right? >> they had eyes on the situational they had informants in the community that they believed would be lucrative for them, and that certainly worked out. i think they -- it is clear to me that they worked in concert with united states law enforcement and
one law enforcement official pointed me towards a line that runs between new york city and toronto. it runs actually from buffalo, new york. i'm told that the plan was to detonate explosives in canada. and derail -- and derail the train. and my law enforcement source said there had been some reports that they wanted to wage a spectacular attack, blow up a bridge. he said no. he said what they were doing was to target the train on the tressels, and actually what they wanted to do was derail the...
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and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >> reporter: nick walsh, cnn. >>> it was russia that asked the fbi to look into tamerlan tsarnaev's activities back in 2011. moscow said the older brother was increasingly turning to radical islam. bill black joins us now live from moscow where it is 9:36 in the morning. phil, the chronology of this may surprise people, because it seems that the return to radical islam, the request from moscow came before he traveled back to his ancestral homeland. is that the word you're hearing from russian officials, that they were worried even before they let him back in the country? >> reporter: it's what the chronology
and then for son-in-law reason, he tells me this is dzhokhar and tamerlan, and points at the screen and says here is tamerlan in the blue jacket and dzhokhar in the white jacket. and i say anzor, these are guys with the backpack when the photos are shown. it can't be them. he says i don't know, these are my children. and then his wife grabs the tv screen and starts screaming, i can't be, it can't be happening. i don't believe it. the children are dead. i would have cried out myself. >>...
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law enforcement officials are cautioning this is what he's saying initially. they still need to check out all the facts and make sure what he is saying is accurate. what he's saying is first of all, this was not planned. the terrorist attack was not planned in conjunction with any foreign terrorist group. second, that they were radicalized online. that there was a video component to their being radicalized, that they were self-radicalized. there was not necessarily any internet communication. but they learned what they learned in terms of ideology, and other things, from the internet. the older brother, according to dzhokhar, tamerlan tsarnaev, was the driving force. of course we'd expect him to say something like that. but according to all accounts that was their relationship anyway. and from this initial impression, the initial interviews, investigators believe that these individuals, at least according to dzhokhar were self-starters, self-radicalized, their motivation was that of a jihadist. they were driven by the jihadist thought, the political and religi
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obviously the law enforcement has done a tremendous job in protecting america. a tremendous job in apprehending this particular suspect. but we still have some very serious challenges in the world, and when you live in a country that cherishes our freedom so much in an open society, it presents very difficult challenges for both law enforcement and our intelligence capabilities, but again, we have to move forward. hopefully america can live life as normally as possible. but we have to be vigilant about the challenges that exist against the united states. >> former attorney general alberto gonzales. thank you so much for joining us this morning. appreciate your insight, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> let's get to christine romans in new york with the rest of the top stories. >> hi, john. we're keeping an eye this morning on a court hearing today in canada in the alleged terrorist plot to attack a pass edger train running between new york and toronto. canadian authorities say al qaeda is behind that plot. two suspects are being held without bail. one is due i
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they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the case will be presented to a grand jury. prosecutors will begin presenting evidence, leading to an indictment. i think the process is going to slow down a great deal. remember, this crime was only a week ago. the government is going to have to assemble a lot of scientific evidence trying to tie material that could be connected to the defendant, to the bomb itself. this is complicated stuff. i think it's going to be months in the grand jury until a final indictment is ready to be presented probably. and then at that point the case will be presented to a trial judg
they certainly will release that videotape in a court of law. they've described it in extensive detail. that's going to be powerful, powerful evidence in a potential trial. tom, thanks very much. let's recap quickly the surviving suspect, dzhokhar tsarnaev, now facing federal charges, among them use gd and conspiring to 0 use a weapon of mass destruction rulgting in death. let's bring in our senior legal analyst jeffrey toobin. jeffrey, what happens next? >> what happens next is that the...
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this is a testament to the strength our relationships with canadian and american law enforcement and to the ability of canadian government agencies to work together in furtherance of canada's counterterrorism strategy. today's charges represent the most recent example of the tremendously successful effort and commitment of our national security teams. and i would like to take this opportunity to thank them for their outstanding dedication. in recent years, our collaborative approach has led to arrests and several convictions including in ottawa, in quebec and the 11 individuals in project osage in toronto. these successful arrests and convictions demonstrate the expertise and the effectiveness of our integrated teams. we could not have successfully completed this investigation without the collaboration of our partners at the local, national and international levels. on behalf of the rcmp, i express our appreciation for their tremendous support. i am pleased that some of these partners have been able to join us today. even with these successes, it is very important that canadians rema
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jake tapper joins us and what are law enforcement officials telling you? >> a government official says in the preliminary interviews with sfwl dzhokhar tsavraev, he is providing details, not so much talking, but by nodding and writing things down. he says there were no foreign terrorist groups involved with the attacks. they were radicalized on line. by watching videos online and getting instructions and information online. and in addition according to dzhokhar, the older brother, tamerlan, the driving force behind the attacks this is what dzhokhar is saying to investigators. investigators know they have to check everything out. not taking his word as gospel. they want to make sure that what he's saying is true, but this is what he is saying, according to government officials that we have spoken with, the brothers have seen to have been self-starter, self-radicalized individuals. seem to have been radicalized in the united states, and the motivating thought seems to be jihadist thought, the idea there is political and religious motivation, that islam is un
jake tapper joins us and what are law enforcement officials telling you? >> a government official says in the preliminary interviews with sfwl dzhokhar tsavraev, he is providing details, not so much talking, but by nodding and writing things down. he says there were no foreign terrorist groups involved with the attacks. they were radicalized on line. by watching videos online and getting instructions and information online. and in addition according to dzhokhar, the older brother,...
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. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official agrees and says tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no fly list because the u.s. never deemed him a threat. so there were no alarm bells when tsarnaev came back to the u.s. six months later. >> by the time he returned, all investigations, the matter had been closed. >> reporter: even so, it's not clear if the department of homeland security, which was charged with monitoring travel, even knew that tsarnaev was on the fbi's radar. feds failing to talk to each other was supposed to be a lesson learned from 9/11. >> we're trying to make sure that all of that information that was available was shared. if it wasn't, there may be somebody who dropped the ball. >> reporter: a u.s. official says, even when there's a hit in the system, it doesn't prompt anyone in law enforcement to take action. it's just monitoring for suspicious travel. joe johns, cnn, washington. >> our thanks to joe johns for that report. >>> later today, another memorial here in boston for yet another of the victims in these attacks. at noon vice president joe b
. >> reporter: a federal law enforcement official agrees and says tamerlan was not on a terror watch list or any no fly list because the u.s. never deemed him a threat. so there were no alarm bells when tsarnaev came back to the u.s. six months later. >> by the time he returned, all investigations, the matter had been closed. >> reporter: even so, it's not clear if the department of homeland security, which was charged with monitoring travel, even knew that tsarnaev was on the...